Shooting Spree in front of Empire State Building today

[Twitchin Kitten]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5...iminately/

Nanny Bloomberg is about to speak on this. I'm sure he'll drone on and on about guns and how they should all be illegal everywhere to prevent crimes like this.

Dollar says the gun used was illegal. You never hear, "Gunman with registered and legal weapon goes on maniacal shooting spree."

Sullivan laws have been in place in NYC since the 1800's and the illegal gun issue is still a problem. How's that gun ban working out then?

[ralgith]

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-5...iminately/

Nanny Bloomberg is about to speak on this. I'm sure he'll drone on and on about guns and how they should all be illegal everywhere to prevent crimes like this.

Dollar says the gun used was illegal. You never hear, "Gunman with registered and legal weapon goes on maniacal shooting spree."

Sullivan laws have been in place in NYC since the 1800's and the illegal gun issue is still a problem. How's that gun ban working out then?

Its keeping people from defending themselves. So instead of dead criminals we have dead innocents. Way to go ignorant cunt lawmakers!!

[Twilla]

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Didn't the Batman shooter legally own all his guns?

[Gunnen4u]

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Probably. So did the Arizona shooter, BTW. Either way, people especially the real loons, get them.

Doesn't change the fact this shouldn't have happened in a gun-control paradise. Duh.

[Twilla]

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Um yeah, my post was directed more at:

You never hear, "Gunman with registered and legal weapon goes on maniacal shooting spree."

Duh

[John L]

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You should read the posted responses to the sites I went to, such as this one. Its surprising to see so many people who really 'get it'.

[Twitchin Kitten]

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NY is still the safest big city in the country at the moment and it has NOTHING to do with those gun laws.

Twilla, yeah, some loonies have legally registered guns and go on sprees, but I'm talking about in general and more often than not, it's the illegal guns, in the hands of criminals, committing crimes that shit like this happens.

Nothing is fail safe. The Batman movie situation could very well had a chance to be lessened if the people were allowed to bring their guns in. Someone could have shot that nut case. Instead, he had full control and he knew it.

Prohibiting guns from everyone only leaves it so the criminals have the upper hand. If someone wants a gun, they find a way of getting them. England has a strict gun policy, even retired cops can't keep their weapons. They still have crimes involving illegal guns.

If people want to be bad, they're going to be bad regardless of the law.

[Gunnen4u]

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I guess New York's finest hit nine bystanders. Way to go guys, maybe anti gun campaigns can go for disarming them too.

[Twitchin Kitten]

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You got that as the final info or the article?

The article was minutes old from the event happening. Details have not been fully released last time I checked, which was yesterday.

You really think the cops were shooting wildly? You do realize just how crowded a NYC street is in front of the Empire State building, don't you?

[John L]

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You got that as the final info or the article?

The article was minutes old from the event happening. Details have not been fully released last time I checked, which was yesterday.

You really think the cops were shooting wildly? You do realize just how crowded a NYC street is in front of the Empire State building, don't you?

Dear, some people will do practically anything to cover up the truth, no matter how enlightening: Empire State Building shooting victim says NYPD fired 'randomly' into street. And since the Brits have no dog in this fight, we can depend on them to look dispassionately at things.

Questions have been raised over the New York police department's handling of a shooting near the Empire State Building after armed officers injured nine passers-by as they pursued a gunman who had just shot dead his former boss.

One of those injured by police told the Guardian that officers appeared to fire "randomly" as they confronted Jeffrey Johnson, 58, minutes after a workplace dispute escalated into a chaotic shootout in one of the busiest parts of Manhattan.

Reports suggest that while Johnson drew his gun when he was confronted by officers, he did not fire; all those injured appear to have been shot by police. The New York police commissioner, Raymond Kelly, said officers had no choice but to act as they did: police discharged 14 rounds and the gunman died at the scene.

And from one the Police victims:

Robert Asika was among those wounded, shot in the elbow from a distance of around eight feet by one of the two police officers who confronted Johnson. He accused police of "shooting randomly", and said he saw at least two others hit by police bullets.

"If you're gonna aim try and aim perfectly. If you wanna aim at the target, you got to know what you're doing because it's the street," Asika said. "I could have been dead right now. I could have been dead."

Just imagine all the fun I am missing, by not living in that cultural heaven.

Yep, New York's finest.