09-21-2015, 04:12 PM
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Last Wed evening I was in bed REALLY early because I had to drag a tank to Elizabeth that needed to leave the plant at midnight. We have a plus or minus 1 hour window on departure so I could set it in motion any time between 11 PM and 1 AM. On a midnight tank I generally get up at 10 PM, get my shit together, head in and do my pre-trip inspection and all the other shit I have to do then go get it and take off. For the most part, 1 1/2 hours after I leave the house the truck gets underway to destination.
Around 8 PM Barb knocks on the bedroom door and tells me we have no water. First thought? Well pump breaker. She goes and resets it but no dice!
She tells me this and decides that we won't worry about it till I get back and can figure it out.
When I get back home we go through the troubleshooting chain.
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Confirm power to cut in/out relay from breaker
Check relay for stuck spring or other mechanical problem
Pull relay and feed tube off and check for corrosion/blockage
Lastly connect well pump directly to power tabs on relay and see if pump activates
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Of course I couldn't be so lucky that it was just a blockage that would cost $0.00 to clean or shot relay that costs about $20.00 to replace.
No, it was a dead well pump. FUCK!
I checked around to see what a pump would cost and for my depth of well I need a 3/4 hp submersible. Best price was at Home Depot for just under $350.00.
Ok then........need pump and gotta do all the work to replace it. This takes a special tool to thread into the pitless adapter (thankfully I don't have a well head that needs to be excavated....pit access well)
I ended up having to buy all the stuff to MAKE a pitless tool (around $30) but then I'd have one for next time and that friends could borrow if needed.
Knowing that my pump is somewhere around 120 feet down (as best as the old fella who initially sold the property to the original owner could remember) I wondered if it wouldn't just be worthwhile to get a contractor to do the job.
Called around and the one said $75/hour labor @ approx 3 hours and $800.00 for the pump! I told him I could get a pump for $350.00 and he said well that's a cheap-assed "box store" pump and would last only 3 years while theirs had a 5 year warranty. They WOULD do the labor if I got my own pump but he was a bit snotty about it. Problem is that I couldn't even GET the pump till Friday evening and if his guy had to do it on Saturday it would be at the overtime rate. FUCK!
Called the local plumber who is a neighbor and he said he could do it for $900 including the pump.
Still too much for the budget so we called some muscle and figured to do it Saturday morning.
Got started and the tool I built snapped off at the threads because the pump assembly was stuck! FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!
Called the plumber and offered to pay him his time to just get us started.
He got his shit together and was here in about 30 mins. He went and got HIS pitless tool and we still had one hell of a time getting it to come loose.
He stayed and we did the lifting while he inspected the piping, wiring, spacers etc as we extracted the pump. Heavy fucker too! Turns out my well is 157 feet from the pitless adapter to the bottom of the pump. We had to lay out the (somewhat) flexible line in the yard and then pull the old pump and attach and wire the new one.
Bottom line....till we got it all done and lowered the new pump we had about 4 hours involved. Bob (plumber) charged me $160 for his time and $20 for an adapter we needed from the pump to the piping. Not so bad when my end total came in at: Labor $160.....part $20.....pump, tool pieces and tax at Home Depot $424.
Total for the job: $604.00
Better than the $900 if Bob had supplied the pump and FAR better than the $1200 plus the other guy would have charged.
But......what a pain in the ass!
Bob figures the pump should last at least 10 years and said you really SHOULD replace them every 15 years even if still working because at that point you are on borrowed time and can still schedule replacement for your convenience.
Turns out he recognized his own work and was the one who replaced it the last time (almost 25 years ago!) So I guess if I can get 15 years out of this one then I'm doing good.
Around 8 PM Barb knocks on the bedroom door and tells me we have no water. First thought? Well pump breaker. She goes and resets it but no dice!
She tells me this and decides that we won't worry about it till I get back and can figure it out.
When I get back home we go through the troubleshooting chain.
________________________________________________________
Confirm power to cut in/out relay from breaker
Check relay for stuck spring or other mechanical problem
Pull relay and feed tube off and check for corrosion/blockage
Lastly connect well pump directly to power tabs on relay and see if pump activates
_________________________________________________________
Of course I couldn't be so lucky that it was just a blockage that would cost $0.00 to clean or shot relay that costs about $20.00 to replace.
No, it was a dead well pump. FUCK!
I checked around to see what a pump would cost and for my depth of well I need a 3/4 hp submersible. Best price was at Home Depot for just under $350.00.
Ok then........need pump and gotta do all the work to replace it. This takes a special tool to thread into the pitless adapter (thankfully I don't have a well head that needs to be excavated....pit access well)
I ended up having to buy all the stuff to MAKE a pitless tool (around $30) but then I'd have one for next time and that friends could borrow if needed.
Knowing that my pump is somewhere around 120 feet down (as best as the old fella who initially sold the property to the original owner could remember) I wondered if it wouldn't just be worthwhile to get a contractor to do the job.
Called around and the one said $75/hour labor @ approx 3 hours and $800.00 for the pump! I told him I could get a pump for $350.00 and he said well that's a cheap-assed "box store" pump and would last only 3 years while theirs had a 5 year warranty. They WOULD do the labor if I got my own pump but he was a bit snotty about it. Problem is that I couldn't even GET the pump till Friday evening and if his guy had to do it on Saturday it would be at the overtime rate. FUCK!
Called the local plumber who is a neighbor and he said he could do it for $900 including the pump.
Still too much for the budget so we called some muscle and figured to do it Saturday morning.
Got started and the tool I built snapped off at the threads because the pump assembly was stuck! FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!
Called the plumber and offered to pay him his time to just get us started.
He got his shit together and was here in about 30 mins. He went and got HIS pitless tool and we still had one hell of a time getting it to come loose.
He stayed and we did the lifting while he inspected the piping, wiring, spacers etc as we extracted the pump. Heavy fucker too! Turns out my well is 157 feet from the pitless adapter to the bottom of the pump. We had to lay out the (somewhat) flexible line in the yard and then pull the old pump and attach and wire the new one.
Bottom line....till we got it all done and lowered the new pump we had about 4 hours involved. Bob (plumber) charged me $160 for his time and $20 for an adapter we needed from the pump to the piping. Not so bad when my end total came in at: Labor $160.....part $20.....pump, tool pieces and tax at Home Depot $424.
Total for the job: $604.00
Better than the $900 if Bob had supplied the pump and FAR better than the $1200 plus the other guy would have charged.
But......what a pain in the ass!
Bob figures the pump should last at least 10 years and said you really SHOULD replace them every 15 years even if still working because at that point you are on borrowed time and can still schedule replacement for your convenience.
Turns out he recognized his own work and was the one who replaced it the last time (almost 25 years ago!) So I guess if I can get 15 years out of this one then I'm doing good.