11-25-2011, 02:15 PM
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(11-24-2011, 03:31 PM)Havoc Wrote: These two sentences make up the only real truth that your post held, so I cut it down to this so you will be able to understand something.Boy you really are bull headed.
The police were reactionary, not proactionary.
This is why we will never agree, you tend to see the police as proactive, I see them as reactive.
If these young head fulls of mush hadn't decided to be where they were doing what they were doing, they would not have encountered the police and the police would not have been faced with several decisions which they did not ask for.
In the end, no one will ever convince me that police enjoyed doing what they did, they were not willing participants in this bullshit they were drug in by someone elses actions just like they always are.
No, I don't see the police as proactive, not at all. Never said that either. Don't quite know why you made up THAT particular straw man. Police action by it's very nature is reaction.
We'll never agree because you keep making up positions for me and arguing against them. Of course when you make up STUPID positions, you can have the appearance of winning a point.
Get this: These kids knew they were gonna be arrested. That was what they wanted. To make a point, get publicity, get their pictures in the paper. Understand? Cops played into their hands. IT WAS WHAT THEY WANTED. Ok? Now when the pepper spray came out, they weren't counting on that. But they most likely felt that in backing down at that point they would look even more foolish. Either that or they knew what video of them getting pepper sprayed while they did nothing would look like. And again the cops played right into it.
Of course the cops enjoyed it. The chance to pepper spray some dirty hippies? To haul away some dumb kids? What's not to like? Only thing missing was some good old fashioned skull cracking. Damn right they enjoyed it. And if you deny it, you are dishonest.