To cut or not to cut?

[Twitchin Kitten]

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You obviously have not looked at the video I linked, nor the images or you would have a different opinion of this surgery. If you did look and still think it isn't cruel, I have nothing to say on that. I couldn't watch without tears in my eyes for that baby.

You keep arguing the fact that it's up to the parents and we have no right to think this cruel surgery is just what it is, cruel. NO ONE has said there should be no right to make this decision. NO ONE has advocated it be made illegal.

You keep insisting we leave it up to the infant to decide. Please quote the person who said that. NO ONE said the INFANT - the say the boy who is left whole- AS GOD MADE HIM - should decide when he gets old enough to make these kinds of decisions. That would be an adult, no? This is the second time it's been clarified for you.

As for plastic surgery being mutilation - oh hell yes. Michael Jackson is a fine example of self mutilation. Twilla has posted many photos of before and after celebs where they look like monsters now. Yeah, it's mutilation. NORMAL people accept the changes their bodies go through over the years and carry on happy and looking "normal". Only the very vain will convince themselves they look good. Hell look at Mickey Rourke.. He used to be very good looking. Not anymore, he looks like an absolute monster now

I have 6 kids TK, 4 of them boys all circumsized, I don't need to watch the video I watched it 4 times in person, and that really is my point.

I made those decisions, and I and those boys mother are the only ones who have any right to make them.

I fucking hate intrusion into my personal life by busy bodies who think they should have some kind of power within my decisions and my house based on some overly self important sense of entitlement.

No one is trying to intrude on your personal life. You're taking this discussion too personal.

We're having a discussion on if we think such surgeries are mutilation or not. You obviously don't think it's cruel and you have your reasons for cutting your kids. I know people who decided after the first boy not to ever put the other boys they've had since through that.

Yeah, we all know the pros and cons - mostly "cons" IMO of not vaccinating your kids. Feel free to start a thread about that though. It'll make for good discussion