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Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Twitchin Kitten - 04-06-2010
You know, this shit would make me pull my troops out in a heartbeat and tell them to fuck off. He slaps the efforts of all Coalition forces who helped his country. How many times did you see him on TV begging us not to leave? I can count three.
Americans and Britains are there trying to train those morons to be soldiers and get an honest government off the ground and this is the thanks they're getting for our spilled blood?
Raging at his allies could cost Afghan President Karzai dear <-- click for full story.
The Americans are furious, his own supporters are incredulous and opposition politicians think that he is mad.
In three successive outbursts this month, President Karzai of Afghanistan has blamed foreigners for last year’s election fraud, accused Western troops of meddling in his country’s internal affairs and even threatened to join the Taleban.
Yesterday the Afghan leader suffered two key blows as the insurgents ridiculed his offer and, more seriously, the White House seemed ready to show a diplomatic cold shoulder.
Speaking of Mr Karzai’s planned visit to Washington on May 12, Robert Gibbs, President Obama’s official spokesman, said that the visit was still on, but added: “We certainly would evaluate whatever . . . further remarks President Karzai makes, as to whether it is constructive to have that meeting.”
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Scoffing at the idea that the Afghan leader might join the insurgents, Zabiullah Mujahid, a Taleban spokesman, told The Times yesterday: “It’s just a game he is playing. He is trying to show people he is not under the control of the Americans but it’s completely false.
“If he really wants to join the Taleban, first he should face justice. He should face justice for bringing foreign troops to Afghanistan. He should face justice for all the crime which has happened during his rule in Afghanistan, and for the corruption and for what is going on now. Then we’ll decide whether we will join with him or not.”
It was at a closed meeting of Afghan parliamentarians in Kandahar on Saturday that the increasingly eccentric President — who is still smarting from a failed attempt to change election law — threatened to join the Taleban. He also said that the Taleban could be seen as a legitimate resistance movement. “If I come under foreign pressure, I might join the Taleban,” he told MPs.
The remarks came after the Afghan parliament voted down a presidential decree last week, which in effect would have neutered Afghanistan’s independent election watchdog. “It was against the constitution,” an MP said.
One parliamentarian at the meeting in Kandahar said that President Karzai claimed there was “a fine line between resistance and revolt. If I don’t get this decree passed, this revolt will turn into a resistance and I will join it.”
Afghan history has rarely favoured leaders who get too close to foreigners. Indeed, few prominent friends of the superpowers have died natural deaths over the past 170 years. Dr Najibullah, who ruled under the Russians, was castrated and lynched when Kabul fell to the Taleban in 1996. Even Mr Karzai’s supporters are worried that he might have gone too far. MPs who usually back him refused to speak publicly. One said anonymously: “We can’t stand by and allow one person to ruin our relationship with the world.”
White House officials have been quick to point to America’s sacrifice in blood and treasure in the hostile terrain of Afghanistan.
Haroun Mir, director of Afghanistan’s Centre for Research and Policy Studies, said: “Without the foreign troops \ wouldn’t last one minute here.” CLICK HEADLINE FOR FULL STORY (there's two pages)
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - LH - 04-06-2010
Wars should be fought to win in the fastest way possible, either go in get the job done and get the hell out or never go in, Go MacArthur on them. Git er done! Just do not go in half assed. If you want to tiddly fink around go the subversive route, from within.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Twitchin Kitten - 04-06-2010
Well the new rules are to drop thousands of flyers and send notes telling the good people to stay out of the way and the bad people to prepare for us.
That worked out real well didn't it?
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - LH - 04-06-2010
They would have been more effective starting a bunch of swine farms.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Black Sun - 04-07-2010
What an ungrateful little shitbag.
Coalition troops giving their lives trying to keep the place peaceful and create a base for some form of democracy and the president threatens to join the Taliban!
Arsehole.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Twitchin Kitten - 04-07-2010
Ain't it a kick in the ass?
We live near a few military bases here and we get to talk to a lot of the guys who've served over there. Many of them say whether it is Iraq or Afghanistan, the people have an ungrateful attitude and have had one from the beginning. Granted they say it's not EVERY citizen there, but they say they see this more often than not.
Unfortunately just pulling up and walking out isn't an option.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Flamethrower - 04-07-2010
(04-07-2010, 10:27 AM)Black Sun Wrote: What an ungrateful little shitbag.
Coalition troops giving their lives trying to keep the place peaceful and create a base for some form of democracy and the president threatens to join the Taliban!
Arsehole.
Well what do you know? We agree completely here.
Karzai is being a whining little shit muffin and needs to be bitch slapped. Ungrateful dickweed.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Jamminitin - 04-07-2010
(04-07-2010, 06:34 PM)Flamethrower Wrote:(04-07-2010, 10:27 AM)Black Sun Wrote: What an ungrateful little shitbag.
Coalition troops giving their lives trying to keep the place peaceful and create a base for some form of democracy and the president threatens to join the Taliban!
Arsehole.
Well what do you know? We agree completely here.
Karzai is being a whining little shit muffin and needs to be bitch slapped. Ungrateful dickweed.
I'm not sure why you would expect more.
Just saw Brothers and Stop-Loss. Brothers was really good, Stop-Loss seemed "fakier" and more melodramatic.
No matter how you slice it, war sucks, but I don't know what the alternative is. Letting them murder our civilians on our soil doesn't seem like a viable option.
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Twitchin Kitten - 04-08-2010
I saw several articles on this and I posted the one that sounded the most factual. One of them actually was accusing him of being on heroin or some other drug because of his nutty outbursts of late.
It's not heroin. It's the region. The Middle East cannot be peaceful amongst themselves, how do you really expect them to get along with the rest of the world?
RE: Karzai Threatens to Join Taliban - Flamethrower - 04-08-2010
(04-08-2010, 10:24 AM)Twitchin Kitten Wrote: I saw several articles on this and I posted the one that sounded the most factual. One of them actually was accusing him of being on heroin or some other drug because of his nutty outbursts of late.
It's not heroin. It's the region. The Middle East cannot be peaceful amongst themselves, how do you really expect them to get along with the rest of the world?
And sadly the majority of their fighting stems from "MY idea of worship is better than YOUR way!"
Even Muslims whack each other because of one or two differently translated verses in the Q'ran.