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Cement shoe fail! - Twitchin Kitten - 05-05-2016
They identified the guy already according to this morning's local news. Apparently they didn't do a good job keeping those air bubbles out of the cement and caused him to float. idiots
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Body-Found-Plastic-Bag-Manhattan-Beach-New-York-Queens-Homicide-377981371.html
He's known as Petey Crack
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/05/nyregion/cement-shoes-fabled-anchor-to-watery-grave-surface-on-body-in-brooklyn.html?_r=0
RE: Cement shoe fail! - LKTraz - 05-05-2016
A five gallon bucket of concrete wouldn't be heavy enough to hold a body in place with even a modest current.
You would need at least double and probably triple that to stand a chance of keeping a corpse on the bottom.
As well when a body begins to decompose the gasses produced are one of the main components in helping to float it. To effectively keep that from happening you'd need to puncture both lungs and the abdominal cavity.
The old mental picture of a steel washtub filled with concrete and the "victim" standing in it is actually a fairly accurate representation of the amount of material needed as those old tubs would hold 15 - 20 gallons. I would imagine that mobsters would be smart enough to know to shiv the lungs and gut before tossing the victim into deep water.
RE: Cement shoe fail! - Twitchin Kitten - 05-05-2016
If you read the article, no one can verify that mobsters even used cement shoes.
RE: Cement shoe fail! - LKTraz - 05-06-2016
Yes because nobody has ever been documented finding a body disposed of in such a manner.
That doesn't necessarily rule out that it ever happened. Just that none has ever been found.
I'm speculating based on what I learned while an EMT and a bit of armchair physics.
