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Separation of church and state - Havoc - 01-27-2012
Except when the state wants to force the church to do something.
http://www.boston.com/Boston/dailydose/2012/01/religious-employers-may-soon-have-offer-free-birth-control/NHp4tepskbXJKkZr4QVm0J/index.html
RE: Separation of church and state - Twitchin Kitten - 01-27-2012
OK first off, when did it become that insurance had to cover it for free under the bullshit law? I can understand requiring it be covered and for your usual copay for prescriptions, but free? I had plenty of companies in the past that wouldn't cover pills because they deemed it a voluntary item, but some covered it.
Now for the church to be demanded of it - that's a load of crap. So, you can't say Merry Christmas but you must give out free contraception? Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
Whoever gets elected better get his head right and grab that EO Pen and get rid of this law.
No one even knows what's in it still. I was under the impression you had to buy insurance and maybe they were going to put up some kind of low cost pool to make private companies become more competitive in the process. If you buy insurance, even if gov't owned, why is there no copay? WTF am I missing on this bill? It scares me.
This administration has reached too far. He might as well have crowned himself King.
RE: Separation of church and state - Havoc - 01-27-2012
Will any of the retards go back and listen to what obama said about this healthcare reform? or will they just think this was always part of how it was explained to the American people, who by the way polled at more than 70% opposed to it in the first place?
70% of the American people said no to this and we got it anyway, will those same 70% vote against being forced by obama to accept it and the free stuff that is now coming into view?
People nothing is free, it's free to those who go get it, it cost everyone else.
This force fed legislation alone should be enough to get obama voted out.
RE: Separation of church and state - Havoc - 01-27-2012
RE: Separation of church and state - Twitchin Kitten - 01-27-2012
Yeah, I saw her making that speech live. My head nearly popped off.
I would love nothing more than to have free health care, but there is no way it could be done without government greed, mismanagement and everything else they can fuck up getting in the way. Never mind the intrusion into your private affairs.
I'd like to know where these doctors are going to come from that are going to be part of this "system" they devised. Quacks I'm sure.
RE: Separation of church and state - Havoc - 01-27-2012
Free- this word does not exist in any direct and meaningful way when you are talking about the fictitious government supplied anything, there is no such thing as free.
RE: Separation of church and state - Twitchin Kitten - 01-27-2012
Yeah I know - you're arguing semantics. I know nothing is free regarding the government. I should have put quotes around the word. Of course it has to be paid somehow and the ignorant who think it's "free" are too stupid to realize you pay for it out of your pocket by way of taxes. They will have a tax on EVERYTHING for healthcare. unless you live on welfare, don't buy a damn thing, don't drive or use the roads, no salary to speak of etc, that would be truly 'free' for you. I don't know anyone who is that much of a mooch, but either way, the respectable working people will be footing the bill with every dollar they spend and earn.
RE: Separation of church and state - JohnWho - 01-27-2012
That Pelosi clip is one of my favorites.
I can't believe there are folks who think that is the way we should run a government.
RE: Separation of church and state - Havoc - 01-27-2012
Many times my posts are directed at the slow,the blindly following masses of dimwits.
Some people can't think past the word "Free" they see that shit and believe it without question.
RE: Separation of church and state - Twitchin Kitten - 01-27-2012
JohnWho, that's because we are the only nation who has the people as the sovereign and not the other way around. I think it's very difficult for people outside the USA to fully grasp what our freedom (should be) is.